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and even bigger gap than 69/31 what president obama beat john mccain among latinos in 2008. look, this is a problem in this election for republicans, andrea, but a bigger problem in 2016, 2020 and beyond. the hispanic community is obviously a young community, it's a growing community, it's a community that's going to register to vote more in line with their population numbers in years to come. republicans simply cannot lose the hispanic vote by 40, 50 points. they can't even lose it by 20 points. people like jeb bush, marco rubio who you showed earlier they understand that. i think the party needs to have a reckoning with where they are in immigration and courting hispanics. numbers like that, mitt romney maybe can win with a number like that, possibly nationally, but i will tell you in 2016, 2020 and beyond the party nominee will be hard pressed to win losing hispanic business that kind of margin. >> and finally, how big a deal is joe biden saying that the middle class has been buried for the last four years? >> yeah. >> republicans are going to make a big deal out of it. >
and even bigger gap than 69/31 what president obama beat john mccain among latinos in 2008. look, this is a problem in this election for republicans, andrea, but a bigger problem in 2016, 2020 and beyond. the hispanic community is obviously a young community, it's a growing community, it's a community that's going to register to vote more in line with their population numbers in years to come. republicans simply cannot lose the hispanic vote by 40, 50 points. they can't even lose it by 20...
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mccain never brought it to him. he was almost exasperated by look, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. he's talking in generalities, but that doesn't get through to the electorate who liked barak obama and i think still does like barak obama. >> i think that's true. i think that's one of the reasons why governor romney's got to go on offense. what the governor has to do is he has to make the public start blaming barak obama for the bad economic -- >> bill: how do you do that? how do you swing the public over to blaming the president? how? >> well, that's the thing that they haven't done effectively -- as effectively as they need to. they've convinced the american people that the economy is bad. what they haven't convinced the american people is that the president's policies that have caused the economy. >> bill: do you do that by facts? >> absolutely. >> bill: okay. so you just keep -- >> policy by policy, policy by policy, and say, your stimulus bill created these economic conditions which has hurt unemp
mccain never brought it to him. he was almost exasperated by look, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. he's talking in generalities, but that doesn't get through to the electorate who liked barak obama and i think still does like barak obama. >> i think that's true. i think that's one of the reasons why governor romney's got to go on offense. what the governor has to do is he has to make the public start blaming barak obama for the bad economic -- >> bill: how do you do...
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relationship that we had and the history and all of those things, and also with for instance senator mccain. i jumped in there as soon as he declared because he has been a friend and he has always been in the center, someone that tried to work on immigration reform, tried to work on environmental issues, energy issues and all the things that i stand for, and he was there in 2003 when i ran in the recall, he was there in 2005 for the special election, he was there again in 2006 for the re-election and when we tried to pass legislation, environmental legislation to make commitments of reducing the greenhouse gases and all of this stuff. he was very supportive in every step of the way so i of course jumped in and helped him right from the beginning. >> if you had been president four years ago instead of barack obama, how would things have been different? you could have been if you were born here. who knows. if you had been, do you honestly think you could have done any better than barack obama has done inheriting such a huge financial mess? is the reality that whoever took over was going to be
relationship that we had and the history and all of those things, and also with for instance senator mccain. i jumped in there as soon as he declared because he has been a friend and he has always been in the center, someone that tried to work on immigration reform, tried to work on environmental issues, energy issues and all the things that i stand for, and he was there in 2003 when i ran in the recall, he was there in 2005 for the special election, he was there again in 2006 for the...
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this is the brave man here current senator john mccain, republican. [applause] the mother teresa of the house and the senate of course and the the republican nominee for president. you have already met governor schwarzenegger. [applause] i tell governor schwarzenegger that in fact the contest for miss universe is considerably harder than mr. universe. [laughter] but he was a with former california governor and convene here at this wonderful the institute which will hold so much promise. former governor house member and member of the cabinet, tom ridge, republican from pennsylvania. [applause] also distinguished member of the military. and former house member governor and member of the cabinet democrat bill richardson of new mexico. [applause] i'm going to join these gentlemen now. i have to figure out which one is my chair. so, governor schwarzenegger, you talk about post partisanship. but i have come to think of it as post office by partisanship which is why i think you are the brave man here because senator daschle if you work with senator crist on
this is the brave man here current senator john mccain, republican. [applause] the mother teresa of the house and the senate of course and the the republican nominee for president. you have already met governor schwarzenegger. [applause] i tell governor schwarzenegger that in fact the contest for miss universe is considerably harder than mr. universe. [laughter] but he was a with former california governor and convene here at this wonderful the institute which will hold so much promise. former...
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>> had john mccain on our show on "morning joe" and he talked about that. he said you sit there for weeks on end, rehash and remembering your lines. a point where you have to walk away and be yourself. you had david axelrod say to you the other day that the romney campaign has had more preparation for this than it took to invade normandy so, you know, everybody is setting this funny bar of the other guy's so great. he's unbeatable. >> trying to set expectations low so it will be easy to see them. has this reached the point of absurdity. >> we in the media, what's going to happen in this first debate? what do people think is actually going to happen that -- we've seen thousands of hours, and we haven't seen them together, but other than one of them saying the most horrific thing, what do we think is going to happen that we haven't seen before with these guys? what are we waiting for? >> there's some hope that we will not be aiming towards immedia mediocrity and these two guys are the smartest guys we have available to fix the problems, yet they themselves tr
>> had john mccain on our show on "morning joe" and he talked about that. he said you sit there for weeks on end, rehash and remembering your lines. a point where you have to walk away and be yourself. you had david axelrod say to you the other day that the romney campaign has had more preparation for this than it took to invade normandy so, you know, everybody is setting this funny bar of the other guy's so great. he's unbeatable. >> trying to set expectations low so it...
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that makes it a lot easier for governor romney n my mind, than senator mccain. no more theories. now we've resume. >> steve: that's right. and in fact, the romney camp has kinds of changed their strategy over the last couple of days publicly and now they're going to make it a choice. so many people know that the economics of our situation right now are horrible and if you look at history, there is no reason this president would be reelected given the past, if it's prologged, given the fact that unemployment is above 8% and gas prices close not closinn on 4 bucks. mr. romney presenting a choice, four more years of this, or the american people will get to determine what kind of america they want to live in. a mitt romney america or a barak obama america. >> gretchen: so no doubt that the two teams who are preparing both of these candidates are saying a lot of time figuring out, what are the negatives about the other guy or how do you get under the skin of the other guy to make it to your advantage with the american people? so last night charles krauthammer on "special report" had h
that makes it a lot easier for governor romney n my mind, than senator mccain. no more theories. now we've resume. >> steve: that's right. and in fact, the romney camp has kinds of changed their strategy over the last couple of days publicly and now they're going to make it a choice. so many people know that the economics of our situation right now are horrible and if you look at history, there is no reason this president would be reelected given the past, if it's prologged, given the...
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romney is running better than mccain ran in the polls. and i do believe it's because of disenchantment with president obama i know a will the of people myself antidotal doesn't do much good here. who they are not sure about romney, that's why i'm saying that the first debate means everything if he can inspire people who are not devoted. 42% devoted to president obama are not going to vote for romney. there is swing area there where if the president comes off weak or flustered. if romney can fluster him. romney is going to pick those up quickly there is much bigger than the first debate. >> i would say president obama is a known quantity. is he probably not going to change people's opinions of him. romney is a little different. even though he has been doing this for years now we have been through a whole series. people didn't watch those. people didn't watch the convention he have a big audience he is the one that needs to make a big impression. >> bill: no doubt. people need to look at the two men on the stage and think gee i can see that
romney is running better than mccain ran in the polls. and i do believe it's because of disenchantment with president obama i know a will the of people myself antidotal doesn't do much good here. who they are not sure about romney, that's why i'm saying that the first debate means everything if he can inspire people who are not devoted. 42% devoted to president obama are not going to vote for romney. there is swing area there where if the president comes off weak or flustered. if romney can...
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when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather, people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> reporter: it's possible we may have already seen this election year's october surprise. maybe it was how the candidates reacted to tragedy in libya and the broader unrest in the mideast or maybe it was mitt romney's now infamous 47% remarks, or perhaps one or both of the campaigns is holding damaging information about the other, or there will be an unforeseen event on the world stage. it's hard to say, since if we could guess, it would not be called an october surprise. dana bash, cnn, washington. >> we'll see if there are any surprises come wednesday. >>> up next, he was by the iranian president's si
when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather, people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going....
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andrea, i want your take because senator mccain talked about this strange, bizarre discrepancy between what the administration knew about the intel and what they said to the american people. and now how it was self-evident and trying to muddy the waters. i don't think they will get away with it, especially when it comes to oversight from congress. senator mccain. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey, al-qaeda is on the way. everything is fine in the middle east. >> you think it's political? >> it's certainly political. how else could you trot out, our u.n. ambassador to say this was a spontaneous demonstration? five days later it doesn't pass the smell test. >> we found out that the director of the national intelligence said they didn't think it five days later and they knew it before. some call for susan rice, ambassador to be fired over this. i think whoever told her or failed to tell her the truth should look at being fired. >> andrea: if you watch sunday shows you saw david axelrod again. they are stepping all over the story. every
andrea, i want your take because senator mccain talked about this strange, bizarre discrepancy between what the administration knew about the intel and what they said to the american people. and now how it was self-evident and trying to muddy the waters. i don't think they will get away with it, especially when it comes to oversight from congress. senator mccain. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey, al-qaeda is on the way. everything is...
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this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the professional consultants and politicians who get paid to spin you guys. that's not what my job is. it's a
this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person...
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there's always some people -- for instance, mccain. da great relationship with he came out to fight for me in 2003, in 2005, in 2006, and he was campaigning up and down. so of course when he ran for president, i was the first one to jump and to say i'm going to endorse him. it was a no-brainer. the same was with george bush. when he ran, he did great work for us. we had a great relationship, the things he did for california. how quickly he was out there with our fires, how quickly he responded, all the needs that we had. and of course i endorsed him right away, even though we didn't agree on everything, but he was my man. so some other times you just figure, like, i got to wait a little bit, i want to hear the debates, i'm going to look forward to the debates, then i make up my mind. that's where i am rig
there's always some people -- for instance, mccain. da great relationship with he came out to fight for me in 2003, in 2005, in 2006, and he was campaigning up and down. so of course when he ran for president, i was the first one to jump and to say i'm going to endorse him. it was a no-brainer. the same was with george bush. when he ran, he did great work for us. we had a great relationship, the things he did for california. how quickly he was out there with our fires, how quickly he responded,...
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neglect in the white house that this was indeed a very factually planned and intimate cover up as john mccain just pointed out i disagree with him a lot as one point i agree with him was very clear that ambassador rice was rolled out to give a also a party line to the nation and that's what i was going to say i mean as this sort of started to the story sort of tire to evolve or change. it maybe ask one of two questions should the public be more concerned that the government knew and didn't tell or that they didn't know especially considering how many intelligence officers they had on the ground tony and you said that you sort of predicted this said when your sources had told you the day onto this happened when the you know officials in libya seem to seem to be saying the same thing that you are right and yet the united states public the united states press was getting a different message what was going on here well the white house should have said it's own interest to say we don't know what happened and not give anything to say we just don't know instead they gave this complete false impressi
neglect in the white house that this was indeed a very factually planned and intimate cover up as john mccain just pointed out i disagree with him a lot as one point i agree with him was very clear that ambassador rice was rolled out to give a also a party line to the nation and that's what i was going to say i mean as this sort of started to the story sort of tire to evolve or change. it maybe ask one of two questions should the public be more concerned that the government knew and didn't tell...
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>>guest: with all respect to john mccain, that is crazy. if we have learned anything in 11 years since 9/11 we have had one case after another of trying to prop up governments that are islamist states that do not have our interests in common. they are not interested in pursuing the sail path as we are. to try to prop them up, we are thought going to bring these guys an empty we will not gem -- get them to abandon radical views and john mccain could look back at the past nine, ten, 11 years and all of the mistakes we have made. >>neil: always good to see you, sir, from washington, dc. the mug shot that congressman west hopes gives him a better shot. will it? that is ahead. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about that 401(k) you picked up back in the '80s. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like a lot of things, the market has changed, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and your plans probably have too. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we'll give you personalized recommendations tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 on how to reinvest that old 401(k). tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 so talk t
>>guest: with all respect to john mccain, that is crazy. if we have learned anything in 11 years since 9/11 we have had one case after another of trying to prop up governments that are islamist states that do not have our interests in common. they are not interested in pursuing the sail path as we are. to try to prop them up, we are thought going to bring these guys an empty we will not gem -- get them to abandon radical views and john mccain could look back at the past nine, ten, 11...
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he debated john mccain who is an american hero. and senator obama served with senator mccain. even though he didn't agree barack obama had a very high degree of respect for john mccain looking across that stage. i fear -- he lacks that looking at romney. might not only he as he underestimate governor romney but may show -- this is a huge ri risk, he may show some of that contempt gore showed for bush and that's a huge risk for the president. stick his chin up and look down his nose at you if he thinks -- you are beneath him. if you see that body language -- >> i think that's a real danger. i think that there is not a lot of love lost between these two. i don't think that obama likes romney. think that's why he has gotten so competitive in the election. if you have that disdain coming out in the debate it can hurt obama. people obama is a likable guy, nicer guy. they don't think romney is a nice guy. if romney can equalize the like built zbap i thigap it will hel >> what he did effectively with newt gingrich during the republican debates get under his skin, how -- president has
he debated john mccain who is an american hero. and senator obama served with senator mccain. even though he didn't agree barack obama had a very high degree of respect for john mccain looking across that stage. i fear -- he lacks that looking at romney. might not only he as he underestimate governor romney but may show -- this is a huge ri risk, he may show some of that contempt gore showed for bush and that's a huge risk for the president. stick his chin up and look down his nose at you if he...